CHINA, JAPAN AND
AMERICA -- THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY
If the world can vote today, it may well vote China, Japan and America
as, respectively, the good, the bad and the ugly.
Mao penetrated the consciences of the world's oppressed majority with
the
proclamation in China: We would rather starve to death, than ever again
be humiliated. He symbolized anti-imperialism by finally bringing
the West to come around to apologize. He put China on a course to
be a good nation.
Meiji of Japan traded, for modernization, the traditional Asian culture
of
confucianism and buddism. Power and reason replaced emotion and
righteousness. All this transformed a country of limited
resources with people of short statures into a hungry military power,
which has been temporarily diverted to a relentless pursuit of economic
power. Today, Japan is as good at apologizing for being bad as
behaving bad.
It took more than two hundred years and 2 generations of presidencies
for
America to reveal its true color. The Bushes and their cronies of
American faithfuls finally stake the loftiest spot in the community of
nations, which unfortunately is reserved for the ugliest. With
arms full of arms and legs drenched in oil, the Bushes will leave
a stink in the world for America in a long time to come.
This picture is presented to serve as a basis for the endless debate on
Sino-Japan-America relation. What follow is a typical example of
exchanges:
goodman>The pro-Imperial-Japanese apologists try to slip back inside their old
skins
to no avail. Attacking Iris Chang's sucide, not Iris?
joeching>chinese were all so behind iris chang that they would fight to
revenge her murder, but would left perplexed when the murderer was
herself. personally, i v seen too many cases of effective mouthpieces
for america of chinese ancestries that i just cant dismiss this case
so lightly. to me the ghosts of slaughtered phillipine insurgents
must have won out over those of the nanking massacres' victims.
goodman>To hear this from another fella who wants
China and Japan to be "united" against America, sounds like chapter and verse
from the Imperial Japanese propaganda booklets scattered all over Asia
during WWII, promoting what they call the "Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity
Sphere" all over again.
joe>this only showed that the japs lost the propaganda war also. guess
mao saw thru them all and invited all foreigners out unconditionally.
but this greater east asian co-prosperity sphere was as bad then, as
it is good now. it would make most chinese and japanese happy, and
americans cry. so far looks like wankee and paul yih showed
willingness to share a possible assassin's bullet, from either the jap rightwingers or
america's cia, with me for repromoting this idea. how about you?
goodman>To even suggest that the Nanking Massacre was not a massacre,
but a
fabrication of the Chinese and American media is NOT the hallmark of a
true
Chinese patriot, but that of a closet pro-Imperial-Japanese
pro-separatist
apologist.
joe>nanking massacre is as real as hiroshima and nagasaki, and should
be treated the same way. this is how i differ with the media.
and what an american like me doing trying to be a chinese patriot
or some apologist -- i only hope china wont bar me from going back
there.
good> Hating America did not make any person a hero in China.
joe>as i v repeatly answered my fellow americans who ask me to get out
of their country, i dont hate america. i pity america. and would do
anything to wake it up to senses and help it to be great like i did
before it got bushwacked.
good>In the end, Mao shook hands with Nixon, and
Nixon said to him "Principle One -- Taiwan is part of China and there
is only one China."
joe>i had a morning long conversation with tzuang tze tong, the ping
pong player who initiated the pingpong diplomacy and it's all video
taped. the sense i got when nixon bow to mao in their initial hand
shake was that america was grateful that china let them off easy in
vietnam(to prevent a internal war in america) and said: sorry for the
20 years of harassment and threat to china that caused indiscribable
suffering(kind like what hitler did to russia under stalin).
good>Without the united efforts of China and America in stemming the red
tide of
Soviet expansionism, much of the world would have been under the sickle
and
hammer by now, and China would have continued to languish under an
unworkable economic system that is supported only by political fiat.
joe>u should compare the korea war with the skirmishes china had with
russian over an island in hay long river. one was mutual slaughtering,
and the other was a puppet fight. and if u only know how envious
russia is now of china's remaining communistic by skillfully
appeasing the america brat.
good>Since the China trip of Nixon and Kissinger,
joe>kissinger was the butcher of cambodia and stole tzung's credit
for bringing china and america together.
good> China has opened up her doors
joe>you mean america letting down its anti-communism fence. if not
convinced, try do the same to n.korea and cuba.
good>commerce and ideas, and imbibed ideas that work for China, and which
also
work for better relations with the rest of the world. As a result,
China is
ten times more prosperous, more powerful, and more democratic.
joe>let's just say it was the stupidity of america's comminism-phobia
that had put the world on the brink of mutual annihilation(isn't kind
premature to talk about better relations?) before china's pingpong
diplomcy and gorbychev stepped in. then the world was enjoying an
unprecedent prosperity, until bush stepped in.
your very idea of "powerful" and "democracy" would push the world back
onto its doomsday course. so please, dont step in.