LGK>Reflecting
way back to the 15th Century, China was derelict when after 1433 it
scuttled the ships of Zheng He and forbade maritime exploration. ...
The
cause was rivalry between court Mandarins and the eunuchs. So it left a
power vacuum whereby the Portuguese and Dutch, with their pillage and
plundering, portended the future imperial forays by the Westerners and
later the Japanese.
Menzies>(in joe's broken english)Zheng He, a eunuch since
childhood, carried his "balls" in
a golden cask always around him. He wanted to preserve them for
the next life.
joe>Zheng He, like many other eunuchs, has basically forfeited
his current life. This made eunuchs the best of fighting men and
generals. (I almost wrote to Rumsfelt that he should build a
large warehouse to hold the balls of soldiers before shipping them to
Iraq). They were, in short, desperados. Being also Muslim
didnt take anything away. What Chinese in
his right mind would risk his life the way Zheng did?
joe>And who
were the court Mandarins? Most probably the real Chinese, like u
and I. And what China did at that time was what Chinese really
wanted. I strongly suspect that we still would want that if
given the choice today(except may for the 10% westernized, progressive,
modern
Chinese).
joe>And look at how the desperado bug spreaded across the
globe. Yes, the world entered this present AGE OF
DESPERATION
just about that time. We are so imbedded in it today we even look
up to the then barbaric Portuguese, Dutch and other Westerners and
their
top student Japan.
LGK>Japan saw what was coming and the wakeup call came
from Commodore Matthew Perry in 1853 that set Japan feverishly on the
road to modernisation under the Meiji Restoration.
joe>Japan should put Meiji in the same basket as China's Shoong Yat
Sen for the 2 abombs and the vast slaughtering, respectively.
Shoong's revolution was no different from the Tai Ping Ten Kuo fiasco,
the another and earlier Christian uprising,
except Shoong was smart enough to hide the Christian crusading
impetus. Instead, the KMT bunch opted to clear out the Chinese
treasury -- by becoming the first billionaire in the world in Texas,
and a trillionaire
in Taiwan.
LGK>With
the Allied victory, China’s weak contribution of ambulance corps and
other non-combatant ancillary services behind the frontline hardly
impressed the Western Allies that under the 1919 Treaty of Versailles,
instead of reverting all German possession of Chinese territories to
the Chinese, these were handed to the Japanese.
joe>China was never really in both world wars. At best,
they were just insurgences, minus suicide bombers. One distinct
characteristics during the wars, however, was the insurgents seemed to
have their foreigner masters all tagged out. This tradition even
last to today. Too bad for
late-comer Japan, the earlier Western masters and their clonies did an
excellent smearing job on the "fish-eyed", oriental-looking little
Japs.(i suspect that's probably where and how many Chinese got their
inferiority
complex, too).
LGK>May Fourth Movement of 1919, which presaged what were to come
in
China’s painful birth pang to self-respect and modernity.
joe>self-respecting enough to be another student to the West?
Let me reiterate what I stated on my post:
monkey on mao's back. mao was the one, and only one, who insisted
that chinese
could all go starving, but china must never ever lose her self-respect
again.
LGK>Jiang Jieshi ... had more than 10,000 of China’s best and
brightest massacred
joe>very christian of him.
LGK> (about Korea war)Omar Bradley of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
at the Pentagon
was to say, “We fought the wrong war with a wrong enemy and at the
wrong place.” The enemy was USSR and the place Europe.
joe>a war with ussr in europe? we need to throw the shithead
Churchill into the same basket for scheming up the nonsensical cold
war. Look how evil the russian bear is now it comes out the den.
LGK>A sad epilogue to this was P eng
D ehuai was incarcerated after he opposed M ao’s disastrous economic
policy under the G reat L eap F oprward in 1958. M ao imprisoned him; P
eng was badly beaten and suffered poor health later. He died a broken
man.
joe>too bad he did not see that there was still a monkey on china's
back.(shall i add, the world still dont see that there once was a
gozilla, named hitler, on stalin's back).
LGK>As for the conflict in the Middle East, it is not all just
war, and
I
doubt it was religion. ...
the Euro ...a
reprisal for 911 ... Oil is just incidental, ...wrong hands.
joe>israel's turning hawkish(typical of democracy) after clinton's
failure to negotiate a treaty was the cause of everything. the major
support for iraq war in america comes from the jesus faithfuls.
this kind of religion based conflict is a strong warning sign of the
age of desperation. the 911's greatest effect was derailing
bush's scheme on china, initiated by the spy plane accident and
dissipated by iraq war and smell of oil. i wonder how many
americans are aware of the fact that there is upward of 1/3chinese who
are muslim-ancesteral(someone, maybe a muslim chinese, told me that).
LGK>I have just almost finished a book on New York Times’ best
seller list:
“Genghis Khan and the Making of a Modern World., ” by Jack Weatherford.
joe>my brother with a lot connection with mongol has very high
praise for the fighting skills of mongols --
they could actually sleep on a horse during long military
marches. my reply to that was: the chinese were more powerful --
they turn
the mongols into chinese.
CONCLUSION:
I truly believe it's not conclusive yet that China has done badly in
the last 600 years, or even the 200 bloody years. We resisted
progress in order to protect mother nature and the people in it.
We
could have risked mutual slaughtering if choosing to go down Zheng He's
path, like in the European theater of the world war. By allowing
ourselves to be unilaterally slaughtered(remember my insurgence
theory), we in effect preserved humanity. Now we hold the key to
wake up the rest of the world to humanity by simply proclaiming that we
forgive all the barbarism that have been inflicted on us.