THE OSCAR-WINNING MUPPET SHOW
Zhu Zheng, you are the Oscar-winning masterpiece of what politicians
are capable of creating. A happy muppet. You have the full
freedom to talk. But who would listen to a muppet? With the
Republican muppet on one hand and the Democratic muppet on the other,
the politicians can wash the brains of the audience without anyone even
knowing who they are. For example, is Bush only a talking head
for Rove? Then there is the mouthpiece, Powell. But you top
them all.
You are the of-the-people, by-the-people and for-the-people paradise
that parasitic politicians thrive in. But it's there at the
expense of those who are less mob'lized. For them, it has been
hell for the large part of the last century. China, Korea,
Vietnam and now Iraq, have paid the price for the politicians'
folly. The debt shall be paid back.
zhu>Politing
can be s neutral term which means one act to compromise of
conflict interests among interest groups.
joe>spinning like a true politician. yes, it's hard to get
thru to a politician of what u mean by politics.
zhu>China has many good politicians. One of them was Primier Zhou.
joe>that's his weakness, not strength. mao criticized zhou
exactly on that in front of tzung tse tung after primier zhou rejected
the accidental american pingpong initiative.(i got the video on tzung's
description).
zhu>As far democracy, let's name how many none democracies in the
world now
and see who they are?
joe>china, n.korea, cuba and vietnam, all would do much better than
democracies only it the american monkey gets off their
back. china is only pretending to go along with america
before the america return taiwan to us.
zhu>As far as pushing China to democracy, come on, who is pushing ?
No one
but Chinese people!!!
joe>who's pushing the chinese people? so far the most accurate
we can say is that most chinese people want democracy for their own
group, but not others. but the leaders knows how to be fair.
zhu>You all reside outside of China and enjoy freedom of speech and
all the
benefits of democratic societies. How can you tell those poor people in
China that they have no right to breath the air? No tight to vote? No
right to voice different viewpoints? No right to form another political
party? No rigth to start their own newspaper? No right to criticize
their rulers? No right to protect their basic human right from
government?
joe>because they have the responsibility to be fair to others, which
is never possible. somebody knowledgeable about the large picture
and is fair-minded must be given such rights to lead the people in a
harmonious existence.
look at the real world. if any of us, who r most likely much
better versed in world affairs than the ordinary chinese citizen,
should go back to china, he would probably not be satisfied just to go
to the stupid voting booth and cast his useless vote. he wants
and deserves a bigger voice. and if he tried, he would get it, in
china, not america.
this was exactly happened to me. when i tried to express my views
and one time acted on it in america, cia and fbi all jumped on me and
one forum was threatened with so much hate mails that it had to close
down. and when i went to predemocratic taiwan and now china, my
voice reaches higher than they are qualified for. but after
taiwan turned democratic, the top government officials only want to
"listen" to voters.
zhu>Why don't you move back to China and see if you still can surf
the web
and posting whatever you want to say freely?
joe>i actually exposed this kind of lies by accusing the chinese
military cia, face to face, that their military buildup is only for
fighting taiwan and suppressing incidents like tienamin. they
madly agreed. i v openly lectured the nuclear community on the
benefit of denuking china military. even one time, i torn up all
the
paperworks for getting a chinese passport for a little tennis protegue,
so that they have no choice but approve it.(the american embassy
stamped a disapproval even before i had a chance to open my
mouth). and one time i was invited to voice to high military
officials in beijin, i refused.(i m trying to get my own head straight
first, with help from my fellow forumites). so, it seems good
intentions goes a long way in china.